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I would love to hear about people's occupations. What do you do for a living? (With a poll)

Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:23 PM EDT
business, jobs, employment, occupations
By Merle T Wiler

Live Poll

Are you happy with your occupation?

View Results
  • 114269
    Yes
    77%
  • 114270
    No
    23%

VoteTotal Votes: 270

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I am interested in hearing about what people do for a living and a little bit about their job no matter what they do whether it be a rocket scientist, garbage collector, chef, brain surgeon, engineer, Wall Street collecter of easy money, professional baseball player or anything and I mean anything. I recently wrote about my career in social work for example. Don't ask me why but I am interested in what people do for a living, why they do it (if they know) and what the job entails but I am.

Yes I know all about the many websites that describe various professions and they are about as exciting as reading the back of a cereal box so I would like to hear the real story from real people. Here is your chance to tell the world about what you do for a living. Most importantly are you happy with your occupation?

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Merle T Wiler

All personal information will be kept confidential:)

  • 8 votes
#1 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:25 PM EDT
Buckeye Voter

Typing anything in a public forum will not.

  • 17 votes
#1.1 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:42 PM EDT
MarkLHolland

non medical caregiver, I deal with the clients that no one else can handle. Because I am a male care giver with a military background and polictical and realigious background I tend to get stuck with the military males who do not handle female caregivers to well.

  • 10 votes
#1.2 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:53 AM EDT
AnnForTruth01

I would like to hear the real story from real people. Here is your chance to tell the world about what you do for a living.

Individuals providing stories are obviously real, but stories about what they do for a living may or may not be.

  • 2 votes
#1.3 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:29 AM EDT
caterina

Then most of us would be writers of fiction.

  • 5 votes
#1.4 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:38 AM EDT
Javabean88

I am an ER doctor/hospitalist. I do enjoy it. I used to work at a large trauma center, but right now I am at a smaller hospital that is a bit more laid back. It is a nice change and it is nice to live in an area where my kids get a house with a large yard, which they have neer had. We do get our interesting cases, though. this weekend I had a guy come in who had inserted a safety pin in his penis, which then opened. I am not sure what pleasure one could get out of that, and I will not go into detail about how I got it out. We get all sorts of cases related to that. The prisoners also do things to try to get in the psych ward. Anyway, I do like it.

  • 14 votes
#1.5 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:15 AM EDT
douglasq

User Experience Designer for web applications.

  • 6 votes
#1.6 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:07 PM EDT
Steve-485394

Retired Investment Banker of some 31 years! Have seen it all, and met personally many of those whose management and called shots were part of the reason for the financial meltdown and near Greatest Depression!

Know the instruments, but did not use them that were responsible for the mess. Voted no on most if not all of the ideas on increasing leverage.

Was against the short selling rule being taken out, which also added to the mess, and the manipulation done by Hedge Funds.

But now am out and glad I am! Sure I made plenty, but always with my clients first! I was one of the White Hats, those who constantly swam up-stream against most of the Firms general feeling. So glad to be done with Wall Street, not even close to the One I started with many, so many years ago!

  • 10 votes
#1.7 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:19 PM EDT
Scarlet Termite

I am a Certified Medical Assistant currently working as the Office Coordinator for the Center for Health and Wellness at Capital University in Ohio. I love my job and everything about it, even the annoying stuff. I love the beautiful old house that I work in. It was built in 1928 as the University President's residence and was changed to Health Services in 1967. I love my colleagues both in my department and without it. Most especially, I love the students. They are all such good kids.

  • 6 votes
#1.8 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:27 PM EDT
WakeUpPeople-1385514

I work in the entertainment industry. I write music for TV and Film. My music has been used in TV shows and TV commercials in over 50 countries. I produce and engineer albums for artists, some signed to major labels that you see on MTV and hear on Top40 radio, others are indie artists that are up and coming. From doing all of that I have also gotten into doing sound editing and mixing for films and TV shows. I also occasionally write and produce ID packages for radio stations.

My job is my dream job. I get to wake up and make music every day, seven days a week, and I get paid a lot of money to do it. Then, on top of that, I get to work on Films and TV shows editing sound and/or mixing the final mix you hear in the theater, on DVD and on TV.

It's pretty exciting and every day is a different adventure. I can remember when I was 15 and I decided I wanted to go into music as a career, my parents always worried about me being the starving musician and tried to tell me I needed to have a "backup" plan and should get a degree in something more stable like Computer Science or Electrical Engineering. LOL! Instead of listening to them, I went to a music only college where a lot of other famous musicians have gone (John Mayer, Melissa Ethridge, etc), and it was the best decision I've ever made. Now most of my friends that went into CS are out of work and I have more work than I know what to do with!! I make 100% of my living from music in one way or another. Every day I wake up and I thank God for these opportunities that I have been given. It truly is a blessing to be able to have a career in a field that you absolutely love.

  • 9 votes
#1.9 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:46 PM EDT
VerbalBarb

That's great, WakeUp. =0)

  • 5 votes
#1.10 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:56 PM EDT
Keith D-754997

Nice relaxing post. I am an account manager for an electronics recycling company. It's not something I went to school for. It came about from knowing someone and I learned how to do it and I also learned to love working on and with computers. Whenever I had some spare time of a break I would leave my office and go "kickit" with the guys in the warehouse. they began allowing me to fool with computers and I realized an afinity and a love for the damn things. So at age 52, I have decided to return to college for a degree in Information Systems. And Merle, guest what? I have actually completed my first class with a final grade of "B", but I will improve upon that. Keep up the good work.

  • 6 votes
#1.11 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:05 PM EDT
jschurchin

I work for a class 1 railroad. I wouldn't trade my job for any other out there. I didn't begin this career until later in life. I spent the early part of my working life in construction. It is a brutal way to earn a living.

  • 6 votes
#1.12 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:11 PM EDT
douglasq

I work for a class 1 railroad.

What does that mean in layman's terms, please? :-)

  • 5 votes
#1.13 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:13 PM EDT
tojo1968

Merle,

Awsome article and i must echo others here that its refreshing to chew the fat without right/left bashing.

I was an iron worker building ships for 16 yrs and decided to make a better life for my son (single dad) went back to school and now am a supervisor in a laboratory.

  • 5 votes
#1.14 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:03 PM EDT
xcomunic8ed

I'm an Air Force 2W1 or Aircraft Armament Systems Craftsman. I'm Studying Nursing for when I hit my 20 and retire from the Air Force.

  • 6 votes
#1.15 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 6:07 PM EDT
joshua-

Hi Merle,

I develop biomedical research software and I analyze biological data at the IU School of Medicine.

  • 4 votes
#1.16 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 6:18 PM EDT
Karen in Los Angeles

I work in the entertainment industry as well on the legal side although when I was laid off once, our company provided outplacement services.

The outplacement company gave me a psychological test to determine the best job for me - PERFORMANCE ARTIST.

  • 1 vote
#1.17 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:12 PM EDT
American Latina

district manager for tmobile, hate retail hours, love to sell. Still in school on a part time basis :)

  • 1 vote
#1.18 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:59 PM EDT
MBach30

I'm a freelance writer/editor for Demand Studios. You basically have to know the English language inside and out and how to read/write it very fluently to make a substantial salary (and that's even if you're lucky enough to get hired. Once you do, though, it can provide a pretty good income. For example, while I'm obviously not going to disclose exactly what I make--I will say that I earn between $35 and $55k a year.

  • 1 vote
#1.19 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:08 AM EDT
jschurchin

What does that mean in layman's terms, please? :-)

There are 5 Class 1 railroads in America, Union Pacific, Burlington Northern Santa Fe, Norfolk Southern, CSXT and Kansas City Southern.

I work for one of them.

  • 2 votes
#1.20 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:00 AM EDT
Summer-1597193

jschuchin: My ex-father in law retired last Sept fom Burlington Northern Santa Fe. He was pretty high up in the union also.

  • 2 votes
#1.21 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:35 AM EDT
jschurchin

Summer,

He's got a nice pension. huh?

    #1.22 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:01 PM EDT
    Matthew-480753

    I am a biology professor at a state university. I teach behavioral endocrinology and evolution in alternating semesters and I study the social control of adult sex change in fish. I love my job, but tire of being labelled by the press as an elitist snob... I teach young people to think... what is elitist about that?

    • 10 votes
    #1.23 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:49 PM EDT
    Marine24

    Retired Marine - 24 Years

    retired Appliance Technician - 16 Years.

    current occupation part time at most any job that comes around.

    • 3 votes
    #1.24 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:53 PM EDT
    Reply
    Blearc

    Hey Merle, can I say, as a political brawler, that I love the fact that you do your best to fill NV with non political discussions?

    Well I was a Realtor, I gave up the ghost and I'm opening up a new business, just got done painting the Lunch Truck by hand.

    Any suggestions on how to fix my red/pink hands caused by polyurethane based auto paint?

    • 15 votes
    Reply#2 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:39 PM EDT
    Merle T Wiler

    I am trying my hardest to fill up Newsvine with non political content but it is a tough road to hoe. My best advice is to leave your hands pink and use them as an advertizing gimmick. Maybe make some pink tacos or something.

    • 20 votes
    #2.1 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:44 PM EDT
    Studiusbagus

    And the guy even thinks up great marketing techniques!!

    • 11 votes
    #2.2 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:22 PM EDT
    Quando omni flunkus moritati

    Any suggestions on how to fix my red/pink hands caused by polyurethane based auto paint?

    Gojo. or go to a automotive parts store and get an equivalent grease remover I.E. goo gone

    • 5 votes
    #2.3 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
    RachaelMM

    Hey Merle, can I say, as a political brawler, that I love the fact that you do your best to fill NV with non political discussions?

    Seconded. And I'm a lawyer, who works for a Judge. I love it.

    • 4 votes
    #2.4 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:26 AM EDT
    Steve-485394

    yes, use lacquer thinner, it will take off most anything, especially auto paint!

      #2.5 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:21 PM EDT
      Dreama

      Any suggestions on how to fix my red/pink hands caused by polyurethane based auto paint?

      Yes lacquer thinnr will work best.. but let me give you fair warning, it burns especially if your hands are already dry and it will dry out your skin..:)

        #2.6 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:44 PM EDT
        Fufu

        Would acetone work? I know I've used it to get wood stain off of my hands...

        • 1 vote
        #2.7 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:06 PM EDT
        Stand up, speak out

        A red and pink lunch truck? hmmmm

          #2.8 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:21 PM EDT
          Kathy-1571680

          Decorate them.

            #2.9 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:53 PM EDT
            CL1

            Hmm, a red and pink lunch truck --

            That sounds more like an ice cream truck, to me.

            • 1 vote
            #2.10 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:57 PM EDT
            Reply
            Tex-988483

            I would have voted yes but there seems to be no paying work for my obsessions......

            I am a joiner and a visual artist.

            • 11 votes
            Reply#3 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:43 PM EDT
            Blearc

            Whats a joiner?

            • 3 votes
            #3.1 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:46 PM EDT
            Tex-988483

            Woodworker. Timber Frame. Custom furniture. Finish. Architectural carving. That sorta stuff.......

            • 9 votes
            #3.2 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:48 PM EDT
            Kathy-1571680

            Umm great job Tex- you work with your hands and are also frm Texas?? Great combo.

            • 1 vote
            #3.3 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:55 PM EDT
            Tex-988483

            Kathy:

            Why, thank you kindly. I have a degree in Fine Arts and always approached the working of wood as an art form. Sadly, that seems to be far too old school for modern America these days.

            Gotta admit. I'm not from Texas. I have blood roots there. I have lived there and do love the place. How I got my name is a long story.

            best atcha

            • 2 votes
            #3.4 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:37 PM EDT
            DragonWoman

            Tex... it is not too old school for all of America... you have to sell your wares in a new venue.

            Take the old school and put it on the Web. See if you can get a Web site or start with Ebay.

            Never give up on what moves your soul =)

            • 1 vote
            #3.5 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:48 PM EDT
            Reply
            DarthVSchw

            Well i was a computer operator, overseeing information back ups network monitoring and so on and so forth. Now I'm an unemployed mother of one wishing I could win just enough lottery to stay at home till kid goes to Kindergarten (2 years) and then go to school to become a History teacher.

            • 11 votes
            Reply#4 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:55 PM EDT
            Kathleen McKenzie

            A dear friend of mine, mother of four, takes on-line classes to continue her education. I don't know how she does it, but she says, "You know me, I like to stay busy." Perhaps that's available to you for the next two years?

            • 4 votes
            #4.1 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:14 PM EDT
            DarthVSchw

            I'm too busy thinking up things to cook in the kitchen, and then cooking them... plus I spend like a lot of hours playing with kid.... I'll get there eventually.

              #4.2 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:01 PM EDT
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              Artiedabaker

              Pastry chef and baker.... Living in a time where so many are moving more towards "healthy eating," I've always maintained that a little fat, a little sugar, a little chocolate, a little of those "horrible" things called carbs, are just fine for you. Everything in moderation.

              We only live once, and their's no use spending the little time we have chewing on cardboard disguised as food.

              • 26 votes
              #5 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:55 PM EDT
              Tex-988483

              Fat is where it's at. Hard to beat fresh baked goods with a stick. I'm getting a jones. Dang. I miss the bakeries in Pootland, Oregon......

              • 5 votes
              #5.1 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:57 PM EDT
              Artiedabaker

              ahhh yeah! I've been to Portland a few times, and there are some great bakeries up there, and some fantastic artisan bread.

              • 5 votes
              #5.2 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:59 PM EDT
              Merle T Wiler

              Yeah! Carbs are what provides us with the energy to do things and I have no idea why some people dis them. Fat is also an important component of diet. Without it a person will die.

              • 8 votes
              #5.3 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:00 PM EDT
              Tex-988483

              Artiedabaker:

              Tell me about it. They are 3 thousand miles away at the moment.

              Actually there are a couple of fine local bakeries here in the NC mountains as well. Just not as much variation on a theme......

              • 2 votes
              #5.4 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:01 PM EDT
              cookin mama

              baking can be healthy and tasty. just has to be done right.

              • 3 votes
              #5.5 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:11 PM EDT
              Artiedabaker

              Almost all food and ingredients in it's natural form is healthy, or at the very least not unhealthy. It's when the food is either processed to the point of it not being a food, or when their is over consumption, is the point that it becomes unhealthy.

              • 6 votes
              #5.6 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:41 PM EDT
              ScienceGuy-356641

              "Yeah! Carbs are what provides us with the energy to do things and I have no idea why some people dis them. Fat is also an important component of diet. Without it a person will die."

              Everything in moderation.

              • 8 votes
              #5.7 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:53 AM EDT
              D DeMilo

              Everything in moderation.

              agree completely!

              as an Exec. Chef and Restaurateur (ret.) it's not what you eat, it's how you eat. creating food can be one of The most rewarding and enjoyable (downright fun) jobs you could want.

              • 6 votes
              #5.8 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:15 AM EDT
              Dennis270

              creating food can be one of The most rewarding and enjoyable (downright fun) jobs you could want

              Agree totally - I was loving my job until I made the mistake of moving into the corporate foodservice world 4 years ago. It beat the passion right out of me.

              • 6 votes
              #5.9 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:20 AM EDT
              cookin mama

              dennis i bet it did.

              cooking is my creative outlet. i made a new soup yesterday and another one today. no recipe just the one in my head the cooking ingredients talk to me.

              • 5 votes
              #5.10 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:29 AM EDT
              caterina

              As far as baking goes, I'm a 1st generation Italian-American who can't make bread and is ashamed to admit it, (we're keeping the personal information confidential, right Merle T?).

              I'm a recently retired 32 year USAF veteran, (E-8)...who is happily unemployed. Worked in the Education & Training field and loved helping fellow service members earn their degrees. Planning to pursue a Masters in Education with the goal of academic and career counseling for adult students.

              • 2 votes
              #5.11 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:04 AM EDT
              kaviaq

              Pastry chef and baker.... Living in a time where so many are moving more towards "healthy eating,"

              Hey, I eat a strict, healthy vegan diet...but you have to have something decadent once in a while!! I'm on vacation this week and I'm going to the local vegan cupcake shop for a yummy fat-and-sugar laden cupcake! I work out 5-6 days a week and eat my veggies....a cupcake once every couple of months won't kill me!

              I am a lot pickier about my sweets though. Since I don't have many I expect them to be fabulous and I'm willing ot pay more at a nice bakery to get a quality product. No dry supermarket crap for me. I happily pay $3.50 per cupcake...and they aren't very big! But it is worth it for a few bites of heaven!!

              • 4 votes
              #5.12 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:10 AM EDT
              Artiedabaker

              Hey, I eat a strict, healthy vegan diet

              One of my first jobs was at a natural food bakery, and I was just completely enlightened as to the "ins and outs" of gluten free, vegan, and no sugar baking. I'm a die hard butter and fat kind of guy, but I was really amazed at the quality of specifically the vegan products we would make, it was all really good.

              • 5 votes
              #5.13 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:14 PM EDT
              jschurchin

              Chocolate cupcakes with chocolate icing. Yummmmmmm!!! Where have you been all of my life Artie, LOL.

              • 2 votes
              #5.14 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:14 PM EDT
              cookin mama

              tex you had to go and mention Portland bakeries. boo hoo hoo crying my eyes out i miss them so. specially pastaworks cannolis OMG freaking good.

              • 2 votes
              #5.15 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:05 PM EDT
              Merle T Wiler

              Yes caterina everything said here stays between these 4 walls:)

              • 2 votes
              #5.16 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:00 PM EDT
              Tex-988483

              cookin mama:

              Technically not a bakery but I miss Justa Pasta over in the NW. My daughter and I used to frequent that spot often.

              I'm gettin hungry......

              • 1 vote
              #5.17 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:10 PM EDT
              caterina

              Merle T -

              What an engaging discussing this is! I'm interested in what people do for a living too...and it's great when it matches our passion in life. I've found that love for what you do is almost NEVER is about salary. You really knocked it out of the park with this article!

              • 2 votes
              #5.18 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:54 AM EDT
              AKCS

              I'm lucky enough to still live in Portland, am a fiend for good bread, and am taking notes..

              • 3 votes
              #5.19 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:22 PM EDT
              Reply
              rsather139

              I'm a student, currently doing a year abroad in Japan. What I'm going to actually end up doing once I graduate I have no idea. Probably something involving Japan though. Might go into business, might go work in the Foreign Service, who knows at this point.

              • 7 votes
              Reply#6 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:56 PM EDT
              Artiedabaker

              Where in Japan?

              • 1 vote
              #6.1 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:58 PM EDT
              rsather139

              Fukuoka, on the north coast of Kyushu. It's great that it's starting to get cooler.

              • 5 votes
              #6.2 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:59 PM EDT
              ohiogal-479871

              Ah!

              konnichiwa! Juuichi ni, watashi wa nihon ga ikimasu!

              lol! I can't wait to go and practice my japanglish. ;)

              • 3 votes
              #6.3 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:26 AM EDT
              rsather139

              So you're going in November? You didn't have a counter on that, you just said "11."

              Newsvine doesn't like my Japanese kana. Oh well, where are you going?

              • 2 votes
              #6.4 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:33 AM EDT
              GraysonS

              Are you there with JET? My brother and sister-in-law were in Fukuoka with Jet for a year, and totally loved it.

              • 1 vote
              #6.5 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:20 AM EDT
              rsather139

              No, I'm doing a study abroad with a Japanese university here. I'm planning on doing JET when I graduate though.

              • 3 votes
              #6.6 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:03 AM EDT
              GraysonS

              Do it! It's totally bitchin'. I almost did, but my older brother went first, and I didn't want to be the little brother following his big brother around (so, instead, I make video games and travel around the world playing them).

              • 4 votes
              #6.7 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:07 AM EDT
              ohiogal-479871

              Rsather,

              lol! juiichiGATSU (or getsu??).

              See, thats my japanglish going to work :D

              I used to speak and write it much better, but I've lost it since undergrad. hopefully I'll be able to regain much of what I lost when I go.

              Anyway, I'm going to okinawa with a group of friends, I hear its pretty nice. Have you been

              • 3 votes
              #6.8 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:42 PM EDT
              rsather139

              Gatsu would be correct. You only use getsu when you're saying something like raigetsu.

              I haven't been to Okinawa, this trip is my first time off Honshu in fact.

                #6.9 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:35 AM EDT
                caterina

                VISIT Okinawa! I was stationed at Kadena AB for two years back in the 80's and loved every minute of it. Only regret was never learning to speak Japanese.

                • 1 vote
                #6.10 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:02 AM EDT
                ohiogal-479871

                rsather- I used to have a friend from honshu. I hope you have fun on your trip!

                btw Are you majoring in foreign language, or are you studying something else there?

                Caterina-

                my aunt was stationed over there as well for two years, she absolutely loved it!

                • 1 vote
                #6.11 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:58 PM EDT
                rsather139

                Well the classes that I take are pretty set.

                My major is technically Humanities for Teaching, but at this point I think I'm going to drop the "teaching" part of that for the moment.

                  #6.12 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:30 PM EDT
                  Reply
                  cookin mama

                  i am retired, a former cashier .

                  • 7 votes
                  Reply#7 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:59 PM EDT
                  Merle T Wiler

                  I need to mention that I am retired and my occupation is sitting on the couch.

                  • 11 votes
                  Reply#8 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:01 PM EDT
                  Artiedabaker

                  what did you used to do?

                  • 2 votes
                  #8.1 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:09 PM EDT
                  Merle T Wiler

                  Social worker if you had read my article:)

                  • 5 votes
                  #8.2 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:14 PM EDT
                  VerbalBarb

                  Social worker if you had read my article:)

                  I did a stint in the welfare business in the 60s. Had a caseload of 140 AFDC families in Hawthorne, CA. In those days, I don't think it was really "social working", though. Just case management.

                  • 4 votes
                  #8.3 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:45 PM EDT
                  Merle T Wiler

                  Yeah you might want to read my article here: http://merle2.newsvine.com/_news/2010/09/11/5093423-so-you-wanna-be-a-social-worker-the-deep-dark-secrets-revealed-here

                  • 3 votes
                  #8.4 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:52 PM EDT
                  littlereddog

                  Verbal Barb and Merle, we share the same gigs. I worked as a social worker for AFDC recipients right after college in New Orleans - 170 families in my case load. Then I went back to graduate school for my MSW. Now, like Merle, I am a professional couch sitter.......... oh, and dog rescue volunteer.

                  • 2 votes
                  #8.5 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:56 PM EDT
                  s w w

                  I too am a former social worker. I still have my license in Ohio. Althought that helps me very little since I live in Pennsylvania.

                  I worked in community mental health for the first three years after college. I loved that job but I left it to go to seminary. I was lucky enough to spend the year after finishing my MDiv doing a very cool community organizing/theological education hybrid job. Lots of teaching, writing, counseling and community advocacy.

                  But now I'm where I'm supposed to be. I'm a Presbyterian minister [PC(USA)] for one small and one medium sized church in a small western PA Appalachian town. I love it. It's the culmination of all of my passions throughout my entire life. I can honestly say that it's simutaneously the most fulfilling, frustrating, hardest, easiest, saddest and most joyful job that I could ever imagine.

                  I also teach at a local county jail and serve on the board for one of the programs of the local HIV/AIDS task force.

                  • 3 votes
                  #8.6 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:14 PM EDT
                  Kitsi

                  That's me, social worker :0)

                  Today's economy has my desk piled high and and me scrambling to meet needs where I can, let me tell you! Plus, I must take furlough days to help my own employer (the government) save money too.........

                  Still, per my answer to the poll, I do find my job rewarding. There are indeed folks out there who are in genuine need of the services provided. Those are the ones that make my job worthwhile. Fifteen years into it. I am happy there.

                  If I could go back in time and and have to chose to become something else? An archaeologist, with a theological expertise, I think. I have a love of history, and would be very happy to have that very personal to each and every one of us opinion, doccumented with my own research rather than depend on the finds and interpretations of others. :0)

                  • 5 votes
                  #8.7 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:11 PM EDT
                  s w w

                  If I could go back in time and and have to chose to become something else? An archaeologist, with a theological expertise, I think. I have a love of history, and would be very happy to have that very personal to each and every one of us opinion, doccumented with my own research rather than depend on the finds and interpretations of others.

                  If you're ever in Pittsburgh you might really enjoy this: http://pts.edu/Museum

                  It's the James Kelso Bible Lands Museum. Basically it's a very small but very good archeology museum. They have some really cool stuff. Including a piece of Herod's summer home. Currently they have a few (I think four, but I could be wrong) active digs going on in the middle east. And a few years back they found the oldest known to the Hebrew Alphabet

                  • 3 votes
                  #8.8 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:03 PM EDT
                  Kitsi

                  Thank you SSW :0)

                  • 2 votes
                  #8.9 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:43 PM EDT
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                  Sydney - 5

                  I have two. Is that piggie? (A rhetorical quetion.) :)

                  I'm a behavioral scientist by training. Have worked in academia, doing teaching and research, as a consultant, as a government drone (Still gives me nightmares. Had another one a couple nights ago. shudder), as an expert witness in the court system (much less fun than it sounds), and, most recently, as an adjunct proff.

                  Second career as a freelance writer. Almost exclusively in print media, ie., mags, literary journals, books/anthologies. Feature articles, news briefs, fiction, poetry, essays, humor.

                  Prefer the second. Have had lots of fun with it. The first has been full of learning experiences. :)

                  • 8 votes
                  Reply#9 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:08 PM EDT
                  Merle T Wiler

                  The expert witness thing in court in court always left me paralyzed with fear and I have no idea why cause I always passed.

                  • 6 votes
                  #9.1 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:16 PM EDT
                  Sydney - 5

                  Don't know anyone it didn't scare....Scared me, too, which is good. Scare me and I'm the picture of composure and assurance. Smoke and mirrors but it works. :)

                  I especially hated getting flown around on little bitty planes and driven to and from airports by wild eyed legal secretaries who would drive me at 80 mph.

                  • 2 votes
                  #9.2 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:30 PM EDT
                  Merle T Wiler

                  Whever I was on the stand I felt like shouting out, "OK you got me I am a total fraud!"

                  If any of you haven't been on the stand being qualified as an expert witness let me tell you it is worse than most things on earth except perhaps being married to a social worker.

                  • 3 votes
                  #9.3 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:30 AM EDT
                  Sydney - 5

                  I recall a cardiologist friend - a tough as nails WW II vet with confidence to spare - and another doc - a calm, steady shrink - having kittens as they prepared for court.

                  I do wonder if folks like Michael Baden and his ilk ever get scared. I'd love to know.

                  • 2 votes
                  #9.4 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:53 AM EDT
                  MarkLHolland

                  To Merle

                  One of my greatest Jury duty events was when I was being questioned on a illegal Alien drug resist arrests. by the time the defence attorney was done questioning me the prosecutor requested my dismissal. Based upon my hostility to the defendants lawyer, and my hostility to law enforcement.

                  I found out about three hours later that the defendant plead guilty based upon a deportation to Mexico because of my interaction with his lawyer. I have since avoided jury duty by mailing a copy of my book "The Unholy Church" in response to my jury summons, I have yet to be called to jury duty since.

                  • 2 votes
                  #9.5 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:02 AM EDT
                  Reply
                  melrob9880

                  By education a nurse. Got of Nursing, Worked with a major brokerage firm dealing with abandoned property or escheatments, you know when the state says that you may have unclaimed money that they are holding. Worked at that for about 4 yrs before they moved everything to the east coast. Went back into nursing again, but this time as a nurse case manager for an insurance company. Became an insurance adjuster for those accidents that have an injury component to them. Also I mange rental properties that we have, and help hubby with the accounting practice that we own.

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#10 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:16 PM EDT
                  deepwater don

                  Commercial fisherman in Alaska.Crab,salmon,codfish.and herring.See Discovery Channel "Deadliest Catch".Interesting seed for a change no politics,so far, thanks.

                  • 15 votes
                  #11 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:17 PM EDT
                  Merle T Wiler

                  Now that is a really hemanly job and I admire you for risking your life to do it but someone has to do it if we want to eat seafood.

                  • 4 votes
                  #11.1 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:22 PM EDT
                  deepwater don

                  Thank you. After 30 years it all becomes just another job. I have seen many awesome things, marine mammals,bald eagles four feet tall, and volcanoes on the islands spewing ash and smoke. Also many things, weather, ice on the boat, hurricane force winds, and saddest lost quite a few friends in boat sinkings and falling overboard. Thank God only a few broken bones, concussions and all my fingers being broken and one shorter than the rest. All in all a good life. Soon to be fully retired and back into the mountains of the Pacific Northwest.

                  • 8 votes
                  #11.2 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:29 PM EDT
                  Sydney - 5

                  deepwater don,

                  You have to have the coolest job on earth. I could listen to fishermen talk about their work all day.

                  • 4 votes
                  #11.3 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:34 PM EDT
                  Studiusbagus

                  Dangerous Job Don! Wow! I fish here considerably and have met "Long liners" here with fingers missing, holes in their hands from baiting the long line reels...holy crap!

                  And you do all that in some of the nastiest weather...My!

                  • 3 votes
                  #11.4 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:55 PM EDT
                  cookin mama

                  don thank you for risking your life to catch those fishies for me to eat.

                  • 6 votes
                  #11.5 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:59 PM EDT
                  Sydney - 5

                  Thanks from me too! Love them fishies! :)

                  • 4 votes
                  #11.6 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:19 AM EDT
                  deepwater don

                  Everytime you have a McD fishburger it was caught in the Bering Sea and delivered in Dutch Harbor.

                  • 2 votes
                  #11.7 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:37 AM EDT
                  cookin mama

                  i know i should not like those but they remind me of being a kid. When you got change back from your dollar. And when you paid with that weird green stuff and those hard round things I think they called it cash and coins in the dark ages.

                  • 4 votes
                  #11.8 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:07 AM EDT
                  caterina

                  McD fishburger

                  For real? That's made with fish? Get out!

                  • 8 votes
                  #11.9 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:10 AM EDT
                  soggy9000

                  I've met my share of commercial fishermen in my (now defunct) airport bookstore. They are a special breed (and always good customers), and I admired them long before those TV shows made them fashionable.

                  • 5 votes
                  #11.10 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:22 PM EDT
                  rls8r

                  Hi Don -

                  I come from a family of watermen - some commercial fishermen (including catching crabs, and tonging for oysters in that) - a and hauling freight. I did it for a while when I was young, but didn't see any future in it (at least, on the Chesapeake) - so I left and went to school. Some of my friends still work on the water. I really miss working on the water, and I'd do it again in a heartbeat if I thought I could make a living at it.

                  My sister-in-law owns the second(?) largest fishing company in Alaska.

                  • 3 votes
                  #11.11 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:08 PM EDT
                  Kathy-1571680

                  My favorite show+"Deadliest Catch". Family was in the seafood business (also on the Chesapeake) when I was a child- but MUCH smaller scale.

                  Love the show deepwater Don. Once salt water is in your veins it is there to stay I think. I miss it too rls8r.

                  • 2 votes
                  #11.12 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:07 AM EDT
                  Shroggle

                  My knowledge of crabbing on the Chesapeake (now remember this was back in the late 60's, so I'm sure things have changed):

                  All us children (that's the cousins, my brother and myself) sitting on the end of a pier jutting out into the Chesapeake. A string tied around our wrist, the other end tied around some raw chicken, and thrown into the bay. Being told to stay quiet, or we'd scare the crabs away.

                  Parents sitting up under the tree (in the shade) at the picnic table, drinking beer and wine, playing cards, laughing, occasionally (about every half hour to an hour) one of them would come down, pull up the string, take the crabs off the chicken and put them in the barrel behind us, throwing the chicken back in the water, and going back up to the picnic table.

                  • 2 votes
                  #11.13 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:21 AM EDT
                  rls8r

                  Hi Shroggle -

                  I think I saw you! That was you?!!

                  When I crabbed (mid-'60s), I had about 250 pots in the Potomac laid off Wakefield, and as far down as Westmoreland Shores. I'd fish my pots in the morning - starting out about 4:30 a.m. or so - so I'd be done before the heat of the day set in - and I'd be completely done by noon. If the crabs were in, I'd sometimes run my 150-yd trot line in the afternoon. Good times. I'm glad you folks left me some!

                    #11.14 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:01 PM EDT
                    Shroggle

                    Not sure. Again, this was back in the late 60's (I was about 8 or 9 years old at the time).

                    Dad was stationed at the Patuxtant River Naval Air station, and I'm pretty certain we were at a park/boat ramp/recreational area somewhere on the base.

                    And my parents were NEVER up that early, for a day at the "beach" on the bay. Actually, we'd be down there around 10 or 11, and stay till 2 or 3....had to get back in time for us to cook and eat the crabs we caught, before the rest of the family (aunts, uncles, cousins) had to leave to get back home.

                      #11.15 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:05 PM EDT
                      Kathy-1571680

                      There is a beautiful rec area not too far from the base- been there with friends who were in the military. There is a LONG pier that juts out over the water. The funniest thing I saw was a crab pushing an entire quarter piece of a chicken up through the water- it was bigger then the crab x 2.

                      We never used chicken. Eels or bull lip if we used line or pots. But mostly we crabbed with a net. My Dad could see a crab on a cloudy day. He was from a small town in Dorchester County. That is how they crabbed back when he was a boy. Worked on a Skipjack- the whole thing. What I would give for those days again.

                        #11.16 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:40 PM EDT
                        rls8r

                        There are a few rec areas around Pax River - and you can go on down to Point Lookout State Park (there's an old Civil War prison there that many claim is haunted).

                        I've seen folks use about everything for recreational crabbing - including chicken, eels and bull lips. We used eels for the trot line and 'bughead' fish (alewifes) for the pots.

                        In the latter part of the summer crabs would come up the pilings on piers and wharves so kids would walk around with a net getting those. They were often 'doublers' that is a male on top of a female. The female is called a 'peeler' - and it's ready to shed. When it sheds, and is soft, the male then mates with her. Then, kids started damaging things - so now you see 'No Trespassing' signs everywhere. Not so when I was a kid.

                        Another great place to get crabs (recreationally) in the late summer was along the hedging of a pound net. Seaweed would grow on the hedging netting - and crabs would rest in it. You had to be quick though - it took a bit of skill. Fishermen frowned on 'novices' doing that because they'd get the net caught in their outboard motors and then they would cut the motor loose. Of course, that would leave a gaping hole in the net, so you can understand why the fishermen would discourage 'newbies' from working their nets.

                        We really had a lot to deal with when the recreational folks came down. I recall seeing a station wagon full of my crab pots pulled into a gas station. When I asked the two little ol' ladies why they had my crab pots - they told me that they had 'found' them in the river!

                          #11.17 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:01 PM EDT
                          Kathy-1571680

                          LOL that is hilarious!! Found them in the river! Once when I was out crabbing with my Dad we had been crabbing behind this guy all day. He kept throwing the crabs back in so we'd grab them. The guy came along side of us and asked my Dad "where do you get the orange ones"? My father pointed him in the direction of the crab house on shore that steamed them and after the guy was out of ear shot we roared laughing. We caught 22 dozen soft crabs that day and a boat full of other crabs; busters and peelers, hard crabs. The last we had it that good. Hurricane Agnes came through and the Chesapeake has not been the same since. Great memories we have. BTW- that Rec center was for military families only so I think it is with the Navy Military District or something. It is still there as far as I know.

                          • 3 votes
                          #11.18 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:39 PM EDT
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                          Shroggle

                          Currently retired and loving every minute of it (though I do help out administratively with my other half's computer business).

                          My previous job was as a Reactor Operator on submarines for the Navy (based out of Pearl Harbor, HI).

                          Basic job description was sit at the panel and monitor reactor operations with the reactor in both a critical and shutdown condition, take logs, take actions as required for safe operation, take actions in case of emergencies to keep the reactor in a safe condition, even though something out of the ordinary has happened.

                          Secondary function associated with Reactor operators was to maintain, test, troubleshoot and repair (as required) all the electronic equipment associated with the operation, monitoring and safety of the reactor.

                          Third function, basically had to do with rank. As a lower rank (first starting out) it was primarily to do all the operation and testing, at a higher rank, is managing all the Reactor operators (watch schedules, leave schedules, etc), scheduling maintainence (daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly, semi-annually, annually, and every however many years), paperwork preparation, review and filing, and a whole slew of other stuff of a military nature. :)

                          • 4 votes
                          Reply#12 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:27 PM EDT
                          Merle T Wiler

                          Back in the olden days you and me would have been mortal enemies as I was an anti-submarine warfare specialist in the US Navy. It was fun flying around looking for subs but since Vietnam had exactly zero of them I can't say we say we saw a lot of action plus my skills weren't too transferrable to civilian life.

                          • 1 vote
                          #12.1 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:58 PM EDT
                          Shroggle

                          Yeah, my dad did P-3 ops out of Jacksonville, did a Jacksonville-Rota run regularly. :)

                          It's all good. Brown shoes or no, we were still on the same team.

                          • 1 vote
                          #12.2 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:14 AM EDT
                          douglasq

                          My previous job was as a Reactor Operator on submarines for the Navy (based out of Pearl Harbor, HI).

                          If we turn out the lights, do you glow faintly?

                          • 7 votes
                          #12.3 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:10 PM EDT
                          Fufu

                          Faintly was after the first year...

                          Now, that's not Las Vegas you see lighting up the night sky. It's Shroggle. On the bright side, he's a renewable resource!

                          • 5 votes
                          #12.4 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:20 PM EDT
                          Shroggle

                          I can neither confirm nor deny if exposure to low levels of radiation make me glow...you'd just have to "join me in a dark room" to find out.

                          I can tell you, the amount of radiation I recieved from the reactors, over my entire 20 year time frame, is less than you recieve from a couple of xrays to your teeth every time you go to the dentist.

                          I can also say, if I had ever gotten a barium enema (nice diagnostic tool for GI problems), I couldn't go to work for a week, cause I would set off all the radiation monitors as I walked by them. :)

                          • 4 votes
                          #12.5 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:24 PM EDT
                          Kathy-1571680

                          When i first read this I was shocked. I never thought about what is in those contrasts we have to take for these tests. Woo- bet I will be asking more questions in the future.

                          • 1 vote
                          #12.6 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:50 PM EDT
                          Shroggle

                          LOL

                          It's not just the medical tests either. If you go to the beach, or a park, or wherever, and you get a sunburn, you still received more radiation in the timeframe it took you to get that sunburn, than I did in a couple of years worth of working on the sub. :)

                            #12.7 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:04 PM EDT
                            Kathy-1571680

                            I am not a sun person but I fully understand.

                              #12.8 - Thu Sep 16, 2010 12:49 AM EDT
                              Reply
                              deepwater don

                              Had a friend who did the same thing I think on a sub out of Connecticut on the east coast.My thanks to you for your service to our country.

                              • 3 votes
                              Reply#13 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:33 PM EDT
                              Shroggle

                              Wasn't always my pleasure, but you are welcome.

                              • 1 vote
                              #13.1 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:34 PM EDT
                              deepwater don

                              Pretty much like the show as far as the work. Little less drama thanyou see, but they like to have "story lines" throughout the season. 40-50 hour work between naps and you are just to tired to argue,grumble,and be in a tiff over anything.And that includes the skippers.They have to stay awake too, the only difference is they are dry,warm, and have a cup of coffee.

                              • 2 votes
                              #13.2 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:42 PM EDT
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                              VerbalBarb

                              I'm retired. I love it.

                              But, I was in the trust and estate administration business for 34 years. Loved it, too, until the powers that be decided to switch us from customer service to customer service as a disguise for schilling for the company and trying to sell services the customer didn't need or want. That's when I retired early.

                              • 9 votes
                              Reply#14 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:37 PM EDT
                              deepwater don

                              Good for you!

                              • 1 vote
                              #14.1 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:38 PM EDT
                              cookin mama

                              ditto.

                              • 3 votes
                              #14.2 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:02 AM EDT
                              Tom W.-670850

                              Verbal, great point, workers have seen a huge shift in company "ethics" or the lack of them more pointedly in the past decade or so. The good old days of family run business that takes care of a worker and it's customer are gone for the most part. Also it seems that this generation wil not be a life long employee anywhere, there is no incentive for it and they have to go where the jobs are or get transfered to when possible. Glad you got to experience a long career with a comapny before they got slimy!

                              Enjoy your retirement, you earned it!

                              • 6 votes
                              #14.3 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:24 AM EDT
                              cookin mama

                              My brother is one of those rare business owners, he has been is business since he was 18 he is goin to be ahem 58.

                              • 3 votes
                              #14.4 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:09 AM EDT
                              Merewen

                              customer service as a disguise for schilling for the company and trying to sell services the customer didn't need or want. That's when I retired early.

                              And that is why I had to get out of CS. I'm supposed to be helping the customer with their account questions, not trying to sell them something even I wouldn't buy. EVERYTHING is a scam these days.

                              • 3 votes
                              #14.5 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:46 AM EDT
                              Jimster

                              Well I've done many things that somehow or other melded together, never had what you'd call a "career". Latest jobs:

                              1. Logistics for a Winery group
                              2. Photographer/Graphic Designer for a Winery

                              Laid-off at last job (2006) b/c of a hostile take-over by the world largest wine company. Laid-off our entire marketing department. Been looking ever since. Yes I'm one of the long term unemployed.

                              • 6 votes
                              #14.6 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:32 AM EDT
                              VerbalBarb

                              And that is why I had to get out of CS. I'm supposed to be helping the customer with their account questions, not trying to sell them something even I wouldn't buy. EVERYTHING is a scam these days.

                              Being a trust officer used to be wonderful. It was a combination of banker, bookkeeper, friend and social worker, very heavy on helping the customer. You took care of the accounts for the customer (we had a separate investment department, thank God - I hated the investment side), moved money around for them, paid their bills, arranged for their taxes to get done every year, even did things like take them to the doctor if they didn't have a way to get their, take them shopping, arranged in-home care if the needed it. When they passed away, you handled their estates, worked with their families, got the federal estate tax filed and passed everything out. There were also court accounts where you handled assets for those who couldn't take care of themelves and worked with guardians, attorneys and judges regarding the annual court accountings and what was best for the customer.

                              Then, they decided to move brokerage in with trust and let brokerage management get involved on the trust side - brought in hard-sell management and the whole job changed. What I had been trained to do wasn't enough - taking care of the customer was switched from customer service to "taking care" of them by selling them more and more products, like insurance and brokerage products (deregulation was responsible for that fiasco). Then they decided it wasn't enough to have dedicated trust sales staffs, the trust officers had to start bringing in new accounts. Sales quotas ensued and it got worse every year. Bastards.

                              It got really bad the last year I was there and I just said "the hell with it". I had a sister pass away at 62, 7 months before I retired. That made me realize I didn't want to work at a job I didn't love anymore, or work until I keeled over. So, I retired at 59 1/2. Went in for my annual review in March and told my (new, and really hard-line re sales) manager that I had no intention of hanging around. I gave my notice that day that I was gone the end of May. I am pleased to say he was totally shocked.

                              Sorry for the rant. It still pisses me off when I think about it. =0/

                              • 6 votes
                              #14.7 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 2:34 PM EDT
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                              Studiusbagus

                              Another great article Merle! You never seem to stop thinkiing of great pieces to write and entertain other nerves than our political ones.

                              I'm a jack of all trades in regarding myself personally. I am chef by my original trade, then I married somoen from outside the industry and as Artie can probably attest to, it's very difficult being married outside the industry to a 9-5er. The whole basis of a chef is to be "on" when you are "off"...So, having the gift of gab, I went in to sales and after a couple years it really took off, she was a CPA for a large developer and I was selling high ticket items (Equipment, tractors, etc.) All the while I have always had some sort of business on the side also usually high ticket contracting, fountains, retaining walls, waterscapes. I'm good with my hands and imagination.

                              After my divorce the economy went south and I took some time off, traveled a bit more, and then went to work as a State Correctional officer. It's an interesting position but is also quite routine in it's duties. On the other hand I work with a tight knit crew, in a prison not for the weak hearted. The inmates can be very interesting in a "gotta see a trainwreck" sort of way...

                              I laugh when people talk about how easy the life of a prisoner is, A/C, Cable, Internet, great food, no work, gym equipment....none of it is true. It has the potential to be a dangerous job, fatal. But, I work 8 and go home, they live in that for 24/7 and it can be very dangerous.

                              The benefits are great, the money sucks but, I really didn't do it for the money, I still have some from my hay days.

                              I will be changing careers again in 4 years and moving overseas, I plan to open a restaurant in the southern coast of Spain. It works several ways for me, I can own a business and I have been almost everywhere in the US/Canada as well as parts of Mexico. Now if I want a weekend in Paris, or Rome, or Germany, I can drive there!

                              • 6 votes
                              Reply#15 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:45 PM EDT
                              Merle T Wiler

                              Thank you stud and I agree with with you about the life of a prisoner being such a life of luxury. The ones who say that have never seen or talked to a person who is locked up in a cage. I admire your intent to open up a restuarant and hope to see you and Anthony Bourdain on the Travel Channel very soon. If I had to do it all over again I would be a cook.

                              • 4 votes
                              #15.1 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:10 AM EDT
                              WakeUpPeople-1385514

                              Man I hope to visit your restaurant one day! I love travelling through Europe and I haven't really explored Spain yet (but want to!). I really want to move to southern France when I retire, or at least have a second home there! :-D

                                #15.2 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:09 PM EDT
                                Reply
                                Buckeye Voter

                                Rocket scientist.

                                Because stating that I'm "an aerospace engineer specializing in exotic propulsion systems" is just too wordy.

                                • 10 votes
                                Reply#16 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:45 PM EDT
                                deepwater don

                                I kind of like the sound of the second description.Maybe wordy, but descriptive.

                                • 5 votes
                                #16.1 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:08 AM EDT
                                Merle T Wiler

                                A lot of times I tell strangers a big lie that I work for Boeing in an attempt to avoid discussion about my real occuaption:) If you are a social woker you know what I mean.

                                • 2 votes
                                #16.2 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:20 AM EDT
                                MarkLHolland

                                To merle

                                If you are a social worker then koodoos to you. Looking out for the health and well beings of others is the greatest gift that one can bestow upon an other.

                                • 2 votes
                                #16.3 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:06 AM EDT
                                Silent Shogun

                                Where is my warp drive!!!??

                                Seriously.....reading up on different Aircraft/other propulsion systems is a fun hobby of mine. I have no idea the technicalities of them, but it is interesting to read. Subs with Magnetic "force fields" that travel through the water by pushing water away, pulse jet engines (the Aura I believe is one that conspiracy theorists love), Charged ions through a magnetic field........

                                Can you tell us something you are working on??

                                • 1 vote
                                #16.4 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:01 AM EDT
                                Buckeye Voter

                                Where is my warp drive!!!??

                                Physics is a bitch.

                                Subs with Magnetic "force fields" that travel through the water by pushing water away

                                Magnetohydrodynamics (MHD). Never dealt with watercraft, but have played with plasma jets, pulsed plasma thrusters, ion engines, Hall effect thrusters, and other electric propulsion systems. Also chemical rockets of all kinds.

                                pulse jet engines (the Aura I believe is one that conspiracy theorists love)

                                Pulsed detonation engines. Ran those before. Messy when they fail to ignite, then subsequently belch a fireball on the next pulse.

                                Charged ions through a magnetic field........

                                You mean ion engines and Hall effect thrusters. Stuff dates back to the 50s. We use it, though, and it works well. Now the push is for more power. Messy trying to test that, though.

                                Can you tell us something you are working on??

                                Nope. :)

                                • 5 votes
                                #16.5 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:13 PM EDT
                                Silent Shogun

                                Can you tell us something you are working on??

                                Nope. :)

                                Must be something good like matter/anti-matter....can you tell i watch star trek....lol

                                Sounds really interesting to be on teh forefront of a field like that....I can't wait to see what comes out. Some of the stuff is probably already being used, but we will have to wait 50 years like we did for the F-117. I'm prior AF which is probably why I'm interested in it.

                                • 2 votes
                                #16.6 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:56 PM EDT
                                Quando omni flunkus moritati

                                any work on Pulse detonation wave engine. Just curious I'm in the aviation Field and those engines theories amaze me.

                                • 1 vote
                                #16.7 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:00 PM EDT
                                rls8r

                                Buckeye -

                                An old friend of mine is a laser physicist at Rensselaer University. He once explained to me how 'flying saucers' may work with a spinning disk with ram jets on the perimeter and a laser heating the aft-facing containers. Interesting, but pretty weird.

                                • 2 votes
                                #16.8 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:13 PM EDT
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                                Dennis270

                                I've been a chef for the past 15 years. Just went back to school to get a degree in sociology and leave the chef world behind, moving into politics/government - whether from the outside or inside is TBD

                                • 7 votes
                                Reply#17 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:52 PM EDT
                                Buckeye Voter

                                My daughter wants to be a chef. I taught her all I know and have started sending her to cooking classes in the summer. She's ten and prepares one meal per month for our family (plans the meal, buys the groceries, and prepares it). I don't know what else I can do to help her prepare for such a vocation.

                                Then again, she still vacillates between being a fashion designer and a veterinarian, so who knows.

                                • 5 votes
                                #17.1 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:17 PM EDT
                                cookin mama

                                i think that is awesome that she wants to be a chef, and i hope she goes after it.

                                • 2 votes
                                #17.2 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:54 PM EDT
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                                ScienceGuy-356641

                                High school teacher. You'll have to guess the subject.

                                • 8 votes
                                #18 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:58 PM EDT
                                Dennis270

                                ummmm......phys ed? :-)

                                • 4 votes
                                #18.1 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:58 PM EDT
                                Merle T Wiler

                                Phys ed?

                                • 3 votes
                                #18.2 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:59 PM EDT
                                Dennis270

                                OK - that's just freaky, Merle. GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!!!!

                                • 3 votes
                                #18.3 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:00 AM EDT
                                cookin mama

                                health/sex ed? lol

                                • 5 votes
                                #18.4 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:05 AM EDT
                                VerbalBarb

                                High school teacher. You'll have to guess the subject.

                                Hmmmmm.....ScienceGuy....teacher....subject.... Must be Comparative Religion!!

                                • 7 votes
                                #18.5 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:07 AM EDT
                                deepwater don

                                Civics and Comtempory World Problems.High school level.

                                • 3 votes
                                #18.6 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:10 AM EDT
                                Sydney - 5

                                Home Ec, for sure.

                                • 5 votes
                                #18.7 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:20 AM EDT
                                cookin mama

                                i loved home ec my best subject straight a's all 4 years.

                                • 4 votes
                                #18.8 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:11 AM EDT
                                littlereddog

                                Cookin mama, I won the Betty Crocker award my senior year of high school. I have the engraved silver pie server to prove it. I'm a cookin mama, too!

                                • 4 votes
                                #18.9 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:02 PM EDT
                                cookin mama

                                yea

                                  #18.10 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:55 PM EDT
                                  ScienceGuy-356641

                                  Chemistry, which is kind of like cooking, except that we don't get to dine on the end products of our efforts during labs. Lead chromate quiche or potassium permanganate pot pie, anyone?

                                  • 6 votes
                                  #18.11 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:04 PM EDT
                                  Summer-1597193

                                  ScienceGuy - i'll that the potassium permanganate pot pie tonight. Chemistry is fun. When I was in undergrad, I could never figure out why I neded a full year of Organic for medical school. Now I understand, it's not so much the chemistry (though some of it is used), but rather the logic and thought processes involved. Also, they use it as a weeding class - if you can't pass Organic w/ at least a B, you probably won't do so well in med school (though there are always exceptions).

                                  • 3 votes
                                  #18.12 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:15 PM EDT
                                  rls8r

                                  There's a LOT of chemistry in cooking. I think it would be interesting to give a lecture on the chemistry of baking a cake - or why eggs change composition when they are heated - after all, a hard-boiled egg is a lot different from a raw one. One of my favorite books in the past was The Flying Circus of Physics by Jearl Walker. Learning physics and chemistry from everyday stuff - fascinating.

                                  • 4 votes
                                  #18.13 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:18 PM EDT
                                  melrob9880

                                  Science Guy,

                                  I had a college Chemistry teacher tell me, That a good Chemist is like a good cook, they know exactly how much to add to make everything turn out right. That is why I love Alton Brown, he brings chemisty into cooking together. Besides, I like the beakers and stuff that he has for measuring his ingredients.

                                  My 1st degree was in Chemisty, my 2nd was in Nursing.

                                  • 3 votes
                                  #18.14 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:14 PM EDT
                                  caterina

                                  I first heard of molecular gastronomy on the show Top Chef. One of the contestants specialized in this type of cooking and he was totally ridiculed for it, (although he did make it to the finals). interesting stuff.

                                  • 3 votes
                                  #18.15 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:14 AM EDT
                                  BAjunkie

                                  potassium permanganate pot pie

                                  Yummy... just don't eat it after taking your nitroglycerin pills!

                                  • 3 votes
                                  #18.16 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:15 AM EDT
                                  AKCS

                                  Two words.....

                                  Alton Brown.

                                    #18.17 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:36 PM EDT
                                    Reply
                                    alexab-614

                                    Bankruptcy paralegal & full time student.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    Reply#19 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:01 AM EDT
                                    caterina

                                    alexab-

                                    Bankruptcy paralegal & full time student

                                    pretty good job security I suppose. What are you studying?

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #19.1 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:17 AM EDT
                                    alexab-614

                                    I'm working towards my B.A. in Paralegal Studies.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #19.2 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:32 PM EDT
                                    Reply
                                    RAC 0129

                                    TEABAG eradication and disposal.

                                    • 19 votes
                                    Reply#20 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:05 AM EDT
                                    VerbalBarb

                                    TEABAG eradication and disposal.

                                    ...snicker....

                                    Isn't that a little messy, what with the drips and all?

                                    • 12 votes
                                    #20.1 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:07 AM EDT
                                    deepwater don

                                    RAC 1029.....Best laugh out loud with ha-ha chuckle in days.

                                    • 8 votes
                                    #20.2 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:11 AM EDT
                                    ScienceGuy-356641

                                    Just keep it from leaking into the groundwater. Too many crazies out there as it is.

                                    • 8 votes
                                    #20.3 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:58 AM EDT
                                    caterina

                                    so much for not going political... ; )

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #20.4 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:18 AM EDT
                                    douglasq

                                    so much for not going political... ; )

                                    I thought it meant he was a castration technician.

                                    • 4 votes
                                    #20.5 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:17 PM EDT
                                    blackjack-1689093

                                    That could also mean Rocky Mountain Oyster Specialist. :)

                                    Especially battered fried and maple syrup.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #20.6 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 6:16 PM EDT
                                    Physicist-retired

                                    blackjack,

                                    Are you from Severance CO, by any chance?

                                    I used to ride there on the weekends - it was the only time I saw RMO served that way.

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #20.7 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 6:36 PM EDT
                                    RAC 0129

                                    Somehow my tracker wasn't following this thread. Hmmm - ain't technology grand.

                                    TEABAG eradication and disposal.

                                    ...snicker....

                                    Isn't that a little messy, what with the drips and all?

                                    Yeah - it's a lonely dirty job but someone has to do it.

                                    RAC 1029.....Best laugh out loud with ha-ha chuckle in days.

                                    Hey! Your talking about my livelihood here! /sarc

                                    so much for not going political... ; )

                                    Teabaggers say it isn't about politics. It is about changing the culture of America and how they fundamentally think. They are a self-described decentralized headless group that has no interest in becoming a part of the establishment that controls the government but to reduce the government to a much smaller size by changing society and how they think about government.

                                    And if you believe that I have several bridges and swamps for sale.

                                    I thought it meant he was a castration technician.

                                    Ewwwww - such a vulgar mind! 8^)

                                    That could also mean Rocky Mountain Oyster Specialist. :)

                                    Especially battered fried and maple syrup.

                                    Brrrrpppp blech! Threw up in my mouth a little. Just can't get my mind (or mouth) around that!

                                    I see a couple of Teabaggers slipped through the cracks yesterday. Don't worry. They can run but they can't hide. We'll get 'em by Nov.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #20.8 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:52 AM EDT
                                    blackjack-1689093

                                    No Physicist-retired, I went to my buddies ranch up in Mountain City, NV, back in my youth for a brandin' (sp) and after castrating the yearlings, his mom cooked them up that way. The thought made me gag but they were actually really good. I never worked so hard, ate so much and drank so much beer, in a 3 bar town, in my life. Those days were good. :)

                                      #20.9 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:25 PM EDT
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                                      Tom W.-670850

                                      I am currently not working due to health reasons but have worked all my life.

                                      I got a degree to be an RN and I hated it so much that I changed jobs, went back to bar tending and not only made more money, I cleaned up less vomit and @!$%#!

                                      In my younger years I did the usual snow shoveling, grass cutting, and even babysat (mostly so I could watch cable as we didn't have it at home!)

                                      I then worked in the restaurant industry in late high school and while supporting myself through school, they offered me management but I was making more money in over time then friends of mine who had advanced to salaried positions and didn't have to supervise anyone.

                                      I did bartending after the RN disaster, then finally ended up working with animals. The things I learned in nursing school came in handy in this career. I now volunteer working with animals when my health permits, mostly walking dogs who are in a few of the area shelters.

                                      The work with animals was the most rewarding thing I did out of all of it, the restaurant/bar tending was also a lot of fun, dealing with people and co-workers and the chain restaurant I started out at in high school was very supportive and accommodating while attending school, they have since been bought out and are a conglomerate like most are these days so I am sure it wouldn't be the same anymore.

                                      An interesting note on the Nursing, I went into it with out ever having been in a hospital as a patient or really having any family who had either. School did a poor job of preparing me for what it was I would face in the real world after graduation. I worked myself to exhaustion, and while I made great money, I never had the time to spend it and a lot went to good old Uncle Sam! (They love to tax the overtime!) I still to this day get offers for a quick program I could attend to return to the one job I actually went to school for, it seems that there are many like myself who they want to lure back to the long hours and understaffed hospitals. My question is if it was so great why are there so many who have left that it is necessary to have such programs, the answer is that nurses are under paid, over worked, and held responsible for too many patients to give good care at the majority of institutions I know of. I still have friends that I graduated with who I talk to and they bitch about it to me all the time!

                                      I think the best career for anyone is one that keeps them interested, and able to enjoy the money they make. American workers in general have suffered too much these past few decades and I pray for the youngsters that come after me to have good opportunities!

                                      • 10 votes
                                      Reply#21 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:19 AM EDT
                                      Kathleen McKenzie

                                      My sister became an RN after working as a ward secretary, eventually worked in the surgical department. I want to say she was a scrub nurse, but she says no, not really. All I know is, all the patients were unconscious by the time they got to her. She didn't like direct patient care but loved the job she had. Yes, nurses are overworked and underpaid and she tells me there is a severe nursing shortage. There's also a shortage of teachers and nursing schools, so it's unlikely the situation is going to change anytime soon. She is now retired but continues to work on-call.

                                      • 3 votes
                                      #21.1 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:29 PM EDT
                                      Reply
                                      ThreeCents

                                      Engineer that does oceanographic work at a marine science laboratory.

                                      • 7 votes
                                      Reply#22 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:32 AM EDT
                                      caterina

                                      Kool! have a friend working at NOAA at Woods Hole.

                                      • 2 votes
                                      #22.1 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:21 AM EDT
                                      ThreeCents

                                      Woods Hole is a great place. USGS and WHOI are right there too.

                                      • 3 votes
                                      #22.2 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:27 AM EDT
                                      caterina

                                      I think Robert Ballard's Atlantis II is still there? Where do you work?

                                      My friend also lived in a lighthouse on Buzzards Bay. What a charmed life!

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #22.3 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:15 AM EDT
                                      Sydney - 5

                                      Ah, the Cape. My favorite place. Lucky people.

                                      • 3 votes
                                      #22.4 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:03 AM EDT
                                      rls8r

                                      caterina -

                                      An old graduate student friend of mine is now at Woods Hole - Hugh Ducklow - does your friend know him?

                                        #22.5 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:21 PM EDT
                                        caterina

                                        I'm sure she does. She makes it a point to know everyone, that's how she got to live in a lighthouse! : )

                                        I'll ask her.

                                          #22.6 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:16 AM EDT
                                          Reply
                                          DragonWoman

                                          Degree in Graphic Design

                                          I am a Computer Operator/Distribution/Printing/NOC at work

                                          at home....peacemaker,housekeeper,cook,cleaning.......

                                          • 6 votes
                                          Reply#23 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:35 AM EDT
                                          ThreeCents

                                          What is NOC? Probably dumb question.

                                          • 2 votes
                                          #23.1 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:42 AM EDT
                                          DragonWoman

                                          Network Operations Coordinator =)

                                          • 4 votes
                                          #23.2 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:44 AM EDT
                                          caterina

                                          DragonWoman-

                                          at home....peacemaker,housekeeper,cook,cleaning.......

                                          me too...all except the cooking part, (see #5.11)

                                          • 2 votes
                                          #23.3 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:24 AM EDT
                                          DragonWoman

                                          Apparently I can take pretty good blows from crazy neighborhood mommy too.... Ugggh.. that is what I meant about peace maker... doesn't always work out for the best.

                                          • 1 vote
                                          #23.4 - Thu Sep 16, 2010 7:37 PM EDT
                                          caterina

                                          do you mean she HIT you??? What kind of neighborhood do you LIVE in DragonWoman???

                                          • 1 vote
                                          #23.5 - Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:36 PM EDT
                                          DragonWoman

                                          Not a good one... too many kids... too few parents watching them. Her son lied and said my brother swung at him. He yelled at him, cause he was up on the porch going after his cat. I was down there trying to talk sense to this woman and she was searching for a weapon. She found a metal hoe and beat me with it.

                                          I am ok and nothing broken... just bruised up and down my arm and my side. Sore. Certainly it is ugly looking.

                                          She did this in front of her son, so he felt he could come up on the porch after my brother and started wailing on his face. I had to push both of us back into the house and have him call the police. She now has charges on her. She and her son apologized the next day.

                                          I think I have finally had it with this neighborhood. Waiting on mom's retirement next year. Get everyone out... Perhaps then I may be able to live for myself rather than everyone else...

                                          Ya know ;)

                                          As far as baking goes, I'm a 1st generation Italian-American who can't make bread and is ashamed to admit it, (we're keeping the personal information confidential, right Merle T?).

                                          Don't be ashamed.... mom taught me how to bake bread back when I was 13 (now 43) I have not baked it alone since then. I figure I could..... but really.... why?

                                          Well that first slice .... smothered with butter.... Yummy

                                          • 3 votes
                                          #23.6 - Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:33 AM EDT
                                          caterina

                                          holy sh!t...that's just scary. I would have lost it. Glad you're ok.

                                          Perhaps then I may be able to live for myself rather than everyone else..

                                          Absolutely. And the sooner the better Woman!

                                          Take care of yourself.

                                          • 3 votes
                                          #23.7 - Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:37 PM EDT
                                          DragonWoman

                                          Yeah, I am fine... my left thumb hurts the most. Xrays said not broken... maybe sprung... hurts like hell. I keep working it to keep from stiffness.

                                            #23.8 - Sat Sep 18, 2010 9:50 AM EDT
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                                            doctorsteph

                                            Love my job- was a nurse, now a doctor, anesthesiologist- do much administration- work for several senators and congresspeople- doing white papers- have done expert witness things- horribly intimidating!

                                            • 4 votes
                                            Reply#24 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:43 AM EDT
                                            ThreeCents

                                            I did an expert witness thing once. Not interested in a repeat.

                                            • 2 votes
                                            #24.1 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:48 AM EDT
                                            deepwater don

                                            I did an expert witness testimony once. I was found to be innocent.

                                            • 5 votes
                                            #24.2 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:54 AM EDT
                                            Silent Shogun

                                            I'm in EMS/Fire right now and a full time student. I still say Fire b/c i plan on getting into somewhere around here where i just moved. I'm actually thinking of applying to Med school next year if my MCAT is high enough. Did you enjoy the transition Steph? Also, did you end up back at the Hospital you were working as a nurse? That could be interesting.

                                            • 3 votes
                                            #24.3 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:06 AM EDT
                                            Reply
                                            Merle T Wiler

                                            If I was forced to be a physician I would be a anesthesiologist. That is a great job but the expert witness thing can give you multiple heart attacks. I know because I have been there.

                                            • 2 votes
                                            Reply#25 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:50 AM EDT
                                            VerbalBarb

                                            I had to testify once regarding a welfare client with a severely abused child - evidence of multiple healed fractures and a couple of new ones. I had to testify relative to what I saw in the home, whether there was evidence of anyone living there but the mother - things like that. A horrible experience, especially when nothing came of it, because there was a slight chance the kid could have had a syndrome where her bones just broke on their own (although there was no current evidence of such a disease).

                                            Going to probate court for annual accountings on trusts and estate matters was a walk in the park.

                                            • 3 votes
                                            #25.1 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:24 AM EDT
                                            ohiogal-479871

                                            It's great pay good hours, but I think its a total snoooooooooooooooooze fest.

                                            (sorry doc steph! ;) )

                                            I love to interact with patients so I'd hate it as a career.

                                            • 3 votes
                                            #25.2 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:34 AM EDT
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